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In Reply to: Re: To Jazz1 - New World Wines - a Generalization posted by jazz1 on March 26, 2005 at 09:29:47:

I had a friend in town perhaps 12 years ago who owned a small liquor store. In addition to the inexpensive beer he kept for the college kids, he had a pretty good sandwich deli and a very nice selection of wines. He introduced me to South African wines as he was a big fan, and always kept four or five various ones on hand. That was extremely rare and very special - that a small town California liquor store would have a selection of South African wines 12 to 15 years ago.
I definitely developed a fondness for Pinotage, and I find that this varietal is getting increasingly ignored by South African wine producers - at least for export into California. Do you find that Pinotage is less produced now than in the past?
Agree with you on the aging potential of Australian and California wines. They were meant to drink young. In my experience, the whites and Pinot Noirs within four years of vintage is the best. California Cabernet Sauvignons can last much longer, especially ones out of Napa. Our area (Paso Robles) makes some wondeful Cabernet Sauvignons. But I find that they drink really well four to six years after vintage, and decline after that.
Well heck. Next time you're in the area feel free to stop by. I'll crack open a couple good bottles. :-)

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Re: Thanks for the reply - jazz1 06:07:41 03/27/05 (3)
For those of you that don't know, pinotage is the result of grafting pinot noir and hermitage vines.
Pinotage is still popular especially amongst the boutique wineries
where they are trying to make something good and different.
I believe that pinotage has been produced in New Zealand.
The use of American oak is popular amongst pinotage producers.
Some very good pinotages have been made but again I do not think that a great wine will ever be born out of pinotage.
When visiting Boston last year I noticed that Beyerskloof Pinotage was available in a few stores, it is a relatively inexpansive wine
around 10$ but very representative of what pinotage is all about.
It is made by Beyers Truter the famous wine maker from Kanonkop
which are the people that put South African pinotage on the world map.
Beyers Truter was voted as Wine maker of the year (94) for the Kanonkop Bordeaux blend "Paul Sauer" by winning the Comtesse Pichon Lalande trophy. "Best wine in the world" (I don't agree)
Beyers is a great character.
Get yourself a bottle of Beyerskloof pinotage, different, drinkable and interesting
jazz1
- Re: Thanks for the reply - newbilong 14:35:54 07/27/05 (0)
  yes, a small number of very nice pinotages from New Zealand -- Babich and Te Awa come to mind.
- Pinotage - jimbill 21:54:50 04/02/05 (1)
  Isn't that Pinot Noir and Cinsaut?
  - Re: Pinotage - jazz1 06:27:59 04/03/05 (0)
    Cinsault was originally known as "Hermitage" in South Africa (although French Hermitage has none in its blend). When a South African professor crossed the grape with Pinot Noir, he therefore named it Pinotage
    Serge

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