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In Reply to: Re: Wow!! posted by sqmeyer on February 07, 2001 at 21:13:49:
You vulgar show-off posie assholes. If that's what this site's about, then fuckit. In ACTUAL answer to the question asked, my favorite wines tried regardless of price or snob-slavering are...Mas de Gourgonnier, a wonderful REAL red from Provence--serve it with anything meaty/savory...Berard Pere and Sons Rascassas (apparently a cote de Rhone village), 1990 vintage--hard to find now--the '93 is currently on the shelves, lacks the nice finesse of the '90 (serve with nicely seasoned beasty things)...and Charles Joguet Chinons, esp. the '95s--though they need a lot more time in the bottle or COPIOUS airing beforehand (try two or three days)--astonishing/gratifying expression of terroir. As to whites...Regis Minet Pouilly Fume, esp. the '97--if you find any, I'll pay you three times what you paid for it...and so many German rieslings...I'll start with a St. Urbans-Hof with as many years on it as I can get.
Follow Ups:
Any one ever called you a hypocrite ?Top wines tasted.
1. Mateus Rose
2. Black Tower
3. Blue Nun
4. Piat d'Or
5. All the wines from those talented Gallo chaps.
R Spiskitts,
Good response!
Black Tower goes down as a great favourite for me with intimate friends.
What Gallo wines have you tried and what's favourite? I go for the pinot noir.
Mike.S.
Some wines have a great reputation for a reason. Just because someone likes something, is no reason to be insulting. I happen to think the Mas de Gourgonnier is a great wine. Though, I hold that in the most recent vintages, quality seems to be going downhill. The 98 has so much unbalanced acidity, it almost tastes carbonated. Maybe, the Marquis de Sade has been gone too long, and the site no longer has its juju. I would say the same for the Minet. The 97 was wonderful, the 99 not really living up to its predecessors. To each their own. If these wines float your boat, so be it. But don;t crab at someone else because they had a wonderful experience with a once in a lifetime wine.
My point--and really it was as much a visceral reaction as a point--is that passive-aggressive cock-swinging, substituting a wine bottle for your dick, is (to me) pathetic, cringe-making, and has absolutely nothing to do with enjoying wine and sharing the experience. It's in fact the opposite of sharing, which is what I thought an on-line discussion was supposed to be about. I meant to be insulting. Not of YOU, but of the tack you folks chose to take.
jd,
First, it's folk not "folks" and..
Unfortunately, Your choice of wine (plural), belies your ignorance.
Think what you're missing, with this attitude of yours and if you had bothered to pay more attention you would have spotted the phrase "regardless of cost".
Please note the following intelligence:
1. We love all wine!
2. We are interested in all subjects wine!
3. All (any) Wine is my "opium"!
4. We actualy like Beaujolais nouveau (getting pissed on it).and personally I:
1. Always prefer to drink the "petrol wine", when in Provence, currently 10ff per Ltr. Take your own vessel and they serve it from garage type establishments, from petrol type pumps. I would recommend the Rose. There is nothing like a provencal Rose, in Provence, dry, herby, Lavendery, and quite strong!
2. Want and get plenty of sex!
3. Would love to know, what is your real problem?
4. Would welcome an email from you...genuine offer, I am in UK, I have a bottle of Chablis "Vieille Vignes" 1995, it's a bit young, but I would crack it with you. Yes..In return, please be more polite and open minded. I won't respond to this kind of shit again!
None of us are "connoiseurs", include yourself in this sir,
Mike.S.
Mike, thanks for the offer on the Chablis...and I have a couple of bottles of Montlouis chenin I'd happily crack with you. (I'm in the U.S., so I guess the happy occasion will have to wait.) My beef is that a huge (and increasing) part of the wine racket has always been the wielding of certain fetishized, laughably-priced wines as, basically, high-end weapons in the class war. (Forbidden word: Yquem.)And it is just laughable that people who in fact can't begin to afford the upkeep on their wanna-be snob rhetoric in the first place should waste their time playing that sucker's game. (Any billionaires out there seeking wine tips via this on-line bulletin board? Didn't think so.) The way to enjoy wine, I believe, is to share YOUR OWN discoveries and queries...not to bludgeon your co-conversants with a bunch of bilious, second-hand status-speak.Anyway, as it happens something like my point was made beautifully (and more temperately, if that's your thing) by Frank Prial in his wine column in last Wednesday's New York Times (Feb. 14)--of course available on-line.
--John D.
John D.
Thank you for inviting discussion,
If I didn't know you better, I would think that your latest post was blunt and to the point. Certainly, it is far more powerfully put, than your previous ones.
If, like me, you would like to continue with this, can we start a fresh topic, at the top?
I do have some information to share with you and your "Frank Prial" and I am sure that we can narrow the gap.
May I suggest something along the lines of:"MAGIC?" How can we ALL benefit from virtual ramblings, by turning them into REAL experiences?
Or,"MAGIC?" - Was turning the crap wine and water into the best wine, a miracle?
These two questions, the answer to one is positive and to one is negative. I dare you to guess which, with explanations.
regards,
Mike.S.
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