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After 40 years I'm ready to build my second wooden boat. Does anyone have experience with or knowlegde of the Arch Davis Jiffy 22? It is a 22' flat bottomed, O/B cabin skiff that is styled after a downeast lobster boat; http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/davis_jiffy22.html
I thought that it might be fun to have a big skiff that I could kick around in and this looks like it might be fun to build. I'd be using the boat mostly for in-shore fishing, exploring the islands of Boston Harbor, and possibly doing the Erie Canal. What are your thoughts on this boat and a project like this for a guy that is a fair wood worker, but hasn't built a boat in a long time?
I was cruising around the web and came across Boat Plans Online. They have one particular plan that I like, the HM18 http://www.bateau.com/plans/power/HM18.php3 They offer plans as well as a CNC kit that seems reasonably priced. Also, the 18 as it turns out is actually a 19. Even at 19' it is still a little smaller than what I was looking for. According to one of their designers they plan on introducing an HM22 in the near future.
These bateau folks really to have quite a design/plan/kit program going (sure would like to know the software program that 'paints the pics' of their latest larger designs). I have not visited bateau in 2 years or so and they have grown. Nice to know some of these designs have been built. Sure like their approach to plywood composite construction. Even if you did not build a boat yourself, and hired someone to build, having a kit arrive at the builders would still lower costs--plus you get the boat design you want. My favorite is 'Nina' as a softer ride at cruising speed, through a chop, is high on my list lately.
This looks like a fine boat project. Arch Davis has been at the boat design--boat building game awhile and his plans should be about as bug free a product as one could work from.
Do keep a record of your project and we would be glad to post pictures and text here on the Small Boat Forum!
Thanks for the email and encouragement. I'm still leaning towards the Jiffy 22, but I am exploring other options as well while I await the Jiffy 22 study plans.
He has two models the Jiffy 22 (flat bottom) and Jiffy V22 (vee bottom). I'm an explorer like you and I think the flat bottom will suit me fine, especially when beaching on rocky shores. What are your thoughts on this subject?
Yes, Chuck I have a flat bottom small Pacific City Dory that I have modified by adding two wide 10" by 2+" ‘skis’ or sponsons to the bottom. The skiff gets on a plane at low speed, 7mph or so, and really skims along the water at full throttle. I really like to cruise around 16 to 18mph and the skiff does this well even into a chop. However, as much as I like the attributes of a flat bottom skiff: Easier build, able to get right up to the shore & exit off the boat, easier to retrieve onto a trailer--a soft ride it aint...!
If I were to build a larger flat bottom skiff, I would look at the 20' Oyster Dory that John Gardner drew in '84. I would re-engineer the building to use the Tape Seam/Stich & Glue epoxy method, adding interior bottom stringers (like the Tolman skiffs), eliminate most of the frames (using semi-bulkheads where needed to establish shape and stiffness), add a full length stiffening spray rail to the outside panels. AND, add a bow bottom appliqué—per Bolger’s work. This addition would give a V-section shape to the bow where it is needed most -- coming off a wave in a following sea and slogging at planning speed into a chop…
I really like the windshield and overhead with side windows Davis has incorporated into his Jiffy 22 skiffs. I would build something similar onto Gardner’s 20’ Oyster Dory along with the forward cuddy as shown in the skiff article on the SBF Adventures page.
So Chuck, what other designs would you consider building?
I've always had a V-bottom boat,but I recently aquired a flat bottom. I can't load the boat on the trailer from the water to
save my life. Is there an easy solution.
Phil Bolger's "Champlain" Design #636 particulars: LOA 22'6", Beam 7'11", Draft 11", Displacement 4000Lbs., Outboard High Thrust 10 to 25hp. Max Speed 6 to 7 Knots. This is a big - small craft capable of extended sheltered cruising with fuel tank at 52 gals, water tank 60 gals., and a holding tank of 45 gals. Having full headroom thanks to the Bolger Box Keel, along with raised full Berths, and Galley with full sized marine stove adds to the comfort factor.
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