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In Reply to: But you insisted that film doesn't matter... posted by jj on September 10, 2002 at 18:49:32:
The color films permit much less "forced developing" then B/W. There are many reasons why (architecture and R&E of color film, filtration of pH and concentration of the developing ingredients by the topmost levels, misbalance of reaching density and contrast by the different film levels, some dynamic process of the film development and many-many others) mostly people use the color film "as is". Whatever conversation we had was about b/w film. Yes, if a person knows what he is doing (obviously it is not you) then the majorities of b/w film's characteristic are irrelevant and could be used in the way as a person intend to.If you so desperately wiling to refer everyone to the thread you are reefing then do not forget to mention that you, as a person who moderate this forum, deleted from that thread two posts that clearly indicated the you are a complete moron.
Follow Ups:
Why does anyone bother to talk to you? The thread you so embarrassed yourself in is: 1) Still there, minus pure abuse. 2) About Color and B&W, not just about B&W.Your lecture about C41, at least, is pretty much spot on. E6 is somewhat more tolerant, though, but still hardly as flexible as Pan F+ or Tri-X. To be honest, I don't like the Tmax films much, and I have no idea how they can be manipulated. If you'd like to be CONstructive, and have something USEFUL to offer for once, tell us about how Tmax can be manipulated. I suppose I have to be curious, I assume that some day everything else will dry up :(
In any case: Anyone who cares can go read the threads, and see the true perfidy of your accusations.
JJ - Philalethist and Annoyer of Bullies
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Who care what you think, do, or what you are interested. Over the course of the last 3 you have indicated who you are and it is perfectly fine to erase you as a voluble or interesting collaborator. Go to college and get 27th PhD of blow-jobbing and then go to suck the dick of AA Board.How much time I have to rapid: do not read, do not reply and totally ignore my posts because I have a formed opinion about your total worthlessness and emptiness.
Pathetic.
JJ - Philalethist and Annoyer of Bullies
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Here I thought Outside Asylum was BAD !!!!
It would really be great if "Shutterbug Strasse" got more posts. We really don't need nastiness here. I had to post in the "Outside Asylum" concerning film I used in a Leica R6.2 camera I bought. I was really pleased with all the "constructive" advise I got there. One professional photographer even referred me to other very informative websites. This is what the Shutterbug Strasse should be doing. Please do your fighting somewhere else, like, take it "Outside".
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