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First of all, I can't seem to find my favorite wine, Quilceda Creek, and even if I could the prices around here are REALLY high. About five years ago, I bought a case of Quilceda Creek Cabernet from a small shop in Ohio for around 320. It seems that NOW a case would cost roughly 1100. Anyway, I'm not into paying that much for a case - is there anything similar for much less? Or am I being quoted ridiculous prices for Quilceda Creek wine?
Also, I recentry tried a 2001 Willakenzie Estate Pinot Gris, and goodness gracious that was a good wine - 19.95 local price. can anyone point me in the right direction of a similar wine around the same price or cheaper would be GREAT.
I like HUGE reds and my girlfriend likes mellow fruitier whites, so when we have wine we're always opening two bottles which can get a bit costly.
Best Regards,
Brian
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Also try chateau clerc millon. It is a fifth growth paulliac(cab sauv), by mouton rothchild, fruit forward and powerhouse. I adore it and the off vintages, which are cheaper are great because they are ready to drink younger,('97 is perfection after ten minuets in your glass) and it is made by the people that make chateau mouton, so you know, it's awesome.
Good luck finding Quilceda for anything less than a rip-off! I just bought a couple of cases at auction for WAY more than I should have. I guess that's why the price is the way it is. People like us are willing to pay whatever for the wines we enjoy. Good luck.
Pinot Gris is the same grape as Pinot Grigio (French versus Italian). There are some very nice Italian Pinot Grigios at very good prices.Jerry
Brain, quilceda creek has gotten so many rave reviews from the wine critics in a row that even the wine advocate called them the best cabarnet producer in the world in the '90s. Myself, I bought a bunch at auction of the '97, '98, 99 and don't understand the fuss. I'm a bordeaux guy and quiceda has been compared to a young margaux. Quilceda is a very well made wine with a great bluberry nuance, but to my palate, its still a big american, tannic, high alcohol wine. I'll sit on the rest for a few years and see how they come around. Regardless, each of the last 5 or 6 vintages has scored above 94 pts and the '99 was a WA 100 pointer. Quilceda has been largely unamerican in that they haven't raised their prices to strtospheric levels like the vast majority. The current release the '00 was offrered from the winery at $68 per bottle and you can find it in shops for around $80. You will only find older vintages at autcion from anywhere between $80-$140 per bottle depending on the vintage. They also make a second red wine which i've never tasted priced around $30.
...if you like WA reds. They make great Cabs and a fantastic blend called Pepper Bridge Apogee. All in the $30-45 retail range. Also try Woodward Canyon, a bit more $$ but still less than Quilceda Creek and fabulous. As a bonus, the owners of both these wineries, Marty Clubb and Rick Small, are two of the finest gentleman you'll ever meet. Happy drinking!
It's a Small valley in winey Wallyworld. Agree with the Pepper Bridge. Look for new startup label Amavi Cellars directed by same winemaker "JF". Of all the new Walla Walla wines, Pepper Bridge is red cab king. Most of the valley wineries get the most of amortizing their forklifts by moving barrels every time they top off. Pepper Bridges never ever move, ever. I chalk the improved clarity and bursting florals up to this. Exceptional juice.TC
"Most of the valley wineries get the most of amortizing their forklifts by moving barrels every time they top off"This appears to be nonsense. Please enlighten us as to why it is not.
> > This appears to be nonsense. Please enlighten us as to why it is not.==Sorry, just my observation. The Pepper Bridge Winemaker Jon Francois fills his barrels and they stay in one spot never moving until they are drained by gravity in their cavernous underground barrel room. Most of the startup wineries here move barrells pell mell whenever they "top off" adding liquid due to evaporation. Moving of the barrells causes sediment to stir and does indeed cloud the glass. One sip of Pepper Bridge cab both bottled and barreled proved to me instantly the benefit of such ccare. Enology, sheesh.
TC
....it only takes a couple of days for the worse sediment to settle. Plus a barrel sample is generally going to be less clean looking (sometimes it looks likes sewer water or burgundy. Oops, I may get into trouble for that) than a glass of a finished wine. At least we hope that's the case.Love your speakers. Now make one with Lowthers.
Mark Palmer
Nevada City Winery
Nevada City, CA
www.ncwinery.com
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