Fossil fuel tax would pave the roads for a good many years

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Topic - I roll my eyes when I heard complaints about EV subsidies - Feanor 11:49:33 05/04/24 (104)

Are you insane?... - dark_dave56 11:33:07 05/06/24 (5)

Uhmm...No. EV subsidies are a better use of government moneys - Feanor 04:34:21 05/09/24 (2)

Not so sure about all of that... - dark_dave56 00:21:04 05/15/24 (1)

Well true, EV subsides benefit EV drivers ... - Feanor 03:53:34 05/15/24 (0)

RE: Are you insane?... - Inmate51 09:04:54 05/08/24 (1)

I do pay sales tax on my electricity usage in Ontario - Feanor 04:38:28 05/09/24 (0)

environmental theater, protectionist reality... - Jim Pearce 09:47:26 05/05/24 (2)

Some politicians in particular are willing to pander - Feanor 04:33:58 05/06/24 (1)

just to be clear... - Jim Pearce 08:48:42 05/06/24 (0)

I roll my eyes when people think that a "car culture" is (or can ever be) a viable culture. - peppy m. 07:21:40 05/05/24 (50)

RE: I roll my eyes when people think that a "car culture" is (or can ever be) a viable culture. - Inmate51 10:27:41 05/05/24 (1)

Thanks for the two and fro. (nt - peppy m. 10:44:18 05/05/24 (0)

"polish a turd" - nilknarf 10:16:24 05/05/24 (2)

The voice of experience ! - peppy m. 10:29:21 05/05/24 (1)

Indeed - nilknarf 11:57:53 05/05/24 (0)

I love cars but I agree with you. - ghost of olddude55 07:35:05 05/05/24 (44)

I don't think we're going to reverse the Industrial Revolution - Feanor 08:49:47 05/05/24 (23)

Comedian Bill Burr used to ask his audiences if they wanted things to get better. - ghost of olddude55 09:42:33 05/05/24 (22)

And some - E-Stat 13:53:11 05/07/24 (1)

But remember, those places have burgeoned for at least three reasons, not just one. - peppy m. 09:32:17 05/08/24 (0)

Was Thanos right ?!? - Feanor 04:41:49 05/06/24 (3)

No, Thanos was an optimist - Steve O 06:10:41 05/06/24 (2)

World reaching developed-nation living standards ... - Feanor 07:23:18 05/06/24 (1)

RE: World reaching developed-nation living standards ... - beach cruiser 09:07:48 05/06/24 (0)

RE: Comedian Bill Burr used to ask his audiences if they wanted things to get better. - JDK 17:53:48 05/05/24 (14)

Man and Nature - Inmate51 19:35:42 05/05/24 (13)

RE: Man and Nature - JDK 21:50:07 05/06/24 (2)

Certainly seems that "pre-industrial" people driven by superstition are as inherently dangerous as... - peppy m. 16:45:48 05/08/24 (1)

RE: Certainly seems that "pre-industrial" people driven by superstition are as inherently dangerous as... - JDK 17:05:00 05/09/24 (0)

A caveat or two: Humans have imaginations, and they are also toolmakers. - peppy m. 04:44:22 05/06/24 (7)

Humanity is the flowering nt - nilknarf 06:04:39 05/06/24 (6)

And as it flowers, it empowers. - peppy m. 08:31:14 05/06/24 (1)

RE: And as it flowers, it empowers. - nilknarf 08:35:08 05/06/24 (0)

Biological consciousness is the universe reflecting upon itself (nt) - Steve O 06:12:53 05/06/24 (3)

Reminds me of my own efforts to combine (fuse?) narcissism and objective thinking - peppy m. 07:14:05 05/06/24 (2)

It simply works. - nilknarf 07:34:57 05/06/24 (1)

There is no Evil. - peppy m. 07:48:22 05/06/24 (0)

RE: Man and Nature - JDK 19:50:59 05/05/24 (1)

RE: Man and Nature - Inmate51 20:05:57 05/05/24 (0)

There are many variations of mineshaft gap mentality... - musetap 10:47:06 05/05/24 (0)

or... - Jim Pearce 08:41:02 05/05/24 (2)

RE: or... - Inmate51 08:17:01 05/06/24 (0)

RE: or... - www.records 06:29:42 05/06/24 (0)

I "love" cars too. I love ingenuity in art, craft, and invention. But simply, I love other things even more... - peppy m. 08:16:26 05/05/24 (16)

There was a kind of magic there for a while - JDK 19:45:34 05/05/24 (2)

Mid 1950s - mid 1960's was the golden decade. For Jazz music too. (nt - peppy m. 09:17:09 05/06/24 (1)

For Jazz music too - Inmate51 13:55:05 05/06/24 (0)

I'm a "Star Trek II" fan. - ghost of olddude55 08:33:27 05/05/24 (12)

And apparently unaware of - E-Stat 14:03:38 05/08/24 (0)

And I'm a Shakespeare fan. He said, "The quality of mercy is NOT strained..." In other words... - peppy m. 09:17:11 05/05/24 (6)

Not sure I believe in free will either... - ghost of olddude55 09:22:01 05/05/24 (5)

Well, at least you're "Not sure"... - peppy m. 09:41:35 05/05/24 (4)

When you're talking about free will... - ghost of olddude55 09:45:24 05/05/24 (3)

Man ? Or, Marionette ? - peppy m. 10:36:57 05/05/24 (1)

Nah. We are Devo. nt - ghost of olddude55 11:29:48 05/05/24 (0)

You say "shaped... but I might say "influenced". Is this the main diff between you and I ? - peppy m. 10:27:08 05/05/24 (0)

RE: I'm a "Star Trek II" fan. - Inmate51 08:39:30 05/05/24 (3)

Well, no foolin.' - ghost of olddude55 09:25:54 05/05/24 (2)

RE: Well, no foolin.' - Inmate51 10:36:50 05/05/24 (1)

It already happens. - ghost of olddude55 11:30:27 05/05/24 (0)

RE: I roll my eyes when I heard complaints about EV subsidies - Inmate51 06:40:39 05/05/24 (2)

Yes, I favor government subsidies when it's the best strategy - Feanor 08:45:04 05/05/24 (1)

RE: Yes, I favor government subsidies when it's the best strategy - Inmate51 15:47:18 05/05/24 (0)

RE: I roll my eyes when I heard complaints about EV subsidies - tomservo 13:54:10 05/04/24 (10)

Dunno, but a little Chinese competition ought to spark the domestic industry - Feanor 04:45:10 05/05/24 (9)

RE: Dunno, but a little Chinese competition ought to spark the domestic industry - tomservo 06:38:25 05/05/24 (8)

we are spending "a huge size percentage of our GNP on government "in peacetime" " - Steve O 07:14:53 05/05/24 (7)

RE: we are spending "a huge size percentage of our GNP on government "in peacetime" " - tomservo 08:29:26 05/05/24 (2)

The article and charts - Steve O 10:23:23 05/05/24 (0)

As a previous Chicagoan... - E-Stat 09:23:58 05/05/24 (0)

Note that the latter - E-Stat 07:55:03 05/05/24 (3)

None of that changes the nature, magnitude or "ranking" of the obligations. (nt) - Steve O 09:16:30 05/05/24 (2)

Sure it does - E-Stat 09:27:10 05/05/24 (1)

You're missing the point (nt) - Steve O 09:36:15 05/05/24 (0)

RE: I roll my eyes when I heard complaints about EV subsidies - halfnote 12:37:29 05/04/24 (28)

You'd better read this ... - Feanor 04:34:34 05/05/24 (1)

RE: You'd better read this ... - halfnote 10:06:55 05/05/24 (0)

Then how do you pay for roads? - ghost of olddude55 13:19:23 05/04/24 (25)

Certainly in no way via EVs! -nt - E-Stat 17:02:45 05/04/24 (24)

Fossil fuel tax would pave the roads for a good many years - Feanor 04:58:06 05/05/24 (23)

I'd rather be a moron - nilknarf 05:10:31 05/06/24 (1)

RE: I'd rather be a moron - Story 05:20:13 05/06/24 (0)

But the typical Conservative Party voter is a moron. - DDzStereo 04:55:37 05/06/24 (0)

For how long have you been delusional? - E-Stat 06:23:33 05/05/24 (4)

Fine; you approve of battery golf carts - Feanor 08:38:32 05/05/24 (3)

The reason you can't find any is... - E-Stat 12:21:23 05/05/24 (2)

Would I be less "childish" if I said you are an EV skeptic? - Feanor 08:37:30 05/08/24 (1)

Why not - E-Stat 08:53:42 05/08/24 (0)

Stop taxing "fuels" . . . Start taxing distance driven (modified by mass moved) - Steve O 05:26:54 05/05/24 (14)

RE: Stop taxing "fuels" . . . Start taxing distance driven (modified by mass moved) - Inmate51 06:51:46 05/05/24 (5)

I suspect - Steve O 07:30:35 05/05/24 (3)

RE: I suspect - Inmate51 08:33:05 05/05/24 (2)

The solution to some is always - E-Stat 10:06:45 05/05/24 (0)

I wasn't asking for your "help" - Steve O 09:56:49 05/05/24 (0)

States are considering mileage taxes. - ghost of olddude55 07:16:33 05/05/24 (0)

Agree fundamentally, but - E-Stat 06:33:11 05/05/24 (6)

If there's any desire to actually do something like this, details will be handled - Steve O 07:27:29 05/05/24 (5)

In light of that... - ghost of olddude55 07:39:21 05/05/24 (1)

Exactly - E-Stat 08:11:04 05/05/24 (0)

Like using the IRS - E-Stat 07:31:15 05/05/24 (2)

Absolutely it's "perception" - Steve O 08:20:13 05/05/24 (1)

Previously documented - E-Stat 09:16:14 05/05/24 (0)

Agreed. - ghost of olddude55 06:01:26 05/05/24 (0)

IMO conservation is the ticket to energy security. - ghost of olddude55 12:12:07 05/04/24 (0)

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Fossil fuel tax would pave the roads for a good many years - Feanor 04:58:06 05/05/24 (23)

I'd rather be a moron - nilknarf 05:10:31 05/06/24 (1)

RE: I'd rather be a moron - Story 05:20:13 05/06/24 (0)

But the typical Conservative Party voter is a moron. - DDzStereo 04:55:37 05/06/24 (0)

For how long have you been delusional? - E-Stat 06:23:33 05/05/24 (4)

Fine; you approve of battery golf carts - Feanor 08:38:32 05/05/24 (3)

The reason you can't find any is... - E-Stat 12:21:23 05/05/24 (2)

Would I be less "childish" if I said you are an EV skeptic? - Feanor 08:37:30 05/08/24 (1)

Why not - E-Stat 08:53:42 05/08/24 (0)

Stop taxing "fuels" . . . Start taxing distance driven (modified by mass moved) - Steve O 05:26:54 05/05/24 (14)

RE: Stop taxing "fuels" . . . Start taxing distance driven (modified by mass moved) - Inmate51 06:51:46 05/05/24 (5)

I suspect - Steve O 07:30:35 05/05/24 (3)

RE: I suspect - Inmate51 08:33:05 05/05/24 (2)

The solution to some is always - E-Stat 10:06:45 05/05/24 (0)

I wasn't asking for your "help" - Steve O 09:56:49 05/05/24 (0)

States are considering mileage taxes. - ghost of olddude55 07:16:33 05/05/24 (0)

Agree fundamentally, but - E-Stat 06:33:11 05/05/24 (6)

If there's any desire to actually do something like this, details will be handled - Steve O 07:27:29 05/05/24 (5)

In light of that... - ghost of olddude55 07:39:21 05/05/24 (1)

Exactly - E-Stat 08:11:04 05/05/24 (0)

Like using the IRS - E-Stat 07:31:15 05/05/24 (2)

Absolutely it's "perception" - Steve O 08:20:13 05/05/24 (1)

Previously documented - E-Stat 09:16:14 05/05/24 (0)

Agreed. - ghost of olddude55 06:01:26 05/05/24 (0)

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