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In Reply to: RE: Any wine areas/districts you shy away from? posted by jimbill on June 02, 2018 at 17:49:08
...not really, it's the individual wine more than the region.
There are lots of zins that are too fruit forward from just about everywhere.
Try this one from Lodi.
And there are some really good Oregon pinots, but they are getting more expensive.
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Once again, overly ripe for me.
I did find the Old Ghost available at a local Total Wine store. I noticed in the customer reviews, almost all good, one stated that this was made from grapes that reached their highest sugar content. Don't know if this person knows this or is just guessing.
...OVZ is the cheapest and fruitiest which I suspect keeps the place in business for $20 (all discounted).
Next is Marissa Vinyard - a little more depth for $30.
And then Old Ghost, the most refined and complex for $40.
You would be the worst wine store clerk! I tell you what I don't like and you give it to me!I got a bottle of Old Ghost 2014 tonight, paid $27 for it. Great big ol' fruit bomb! So ripe it is almost as sweet as a Port, but without the complexity and mouth feel. 15.9% alcohol, which means, with the 3 percent fudge factor, it is right there with the typical 20% for Port. And I like Port! But this was way towards the plummy/candy side of Zinfandel that I identify with Lodi. And the alcohol was overbearing/hot on the tongue. Alcohol got better with time, but I think that is because my tongue got numbed.
Steve would surely use this to defend his dislike of Zinfandel.
But hey, that's why they make all kinds of wines. Because there are all kinds of tastebuds.
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But I really do love Port!!
...I took a 2013 Bedrock Heritage to a friend's for dinner.
It reminded me of the Old Ghost.
All their Heritage wines are field blends. Zinfandel and probably 10 to 20 other grapes. Hard to believe it tasted like a old vines Zinfandel.
...to call it "zinfandel" it has to be 75% zin.
Most wines are blended with something these days.
A guy who works for Gallo came into my store and we were chatting about wine. He said just about every high end wine you drink has some of their juice in it.
Bedrock Heritage wines are only about 50% Zinfandel.
I actually called Chris at Bedrock to make sure and told him of your comparison. He got a good laugh out of that. As he said, "They pick their grapes much later than we do and thus make a sweeter wine, kind of like a Port"!
Pshaw Sir!
...Klinker Brick and get their view.
Port my ass.
You call them.
And are we talking wine or proctology now?
Which one? I have never had a Bedrock that sweet.
And Bedrock isn't necessarily the last word for me in Zinfandels.
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