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In Reply to: RE: Merlot tasting... posted by mkuller on July 20, 2017 at 10:49:21

I enjoy a good monster fruit bomb every now and then. Zinfandels, Shiraz, black fruit Pinot, GSM's done in the new world style, Napa Cabs.

But I enjoy them on their own, sitting listening to music, much like a port. I will pour them for dinner because most of my guest enjoy them. But I don't think they add anything to the food I've prepared. They actually kind of battle the food for dominance.

Lower alcohol and lower residual sugar wines typically work better with food.

I've personally never been to a fine restaurant that paired wines with their courses that used big ass wines. Of course, if the winery is putting on the event...

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I agree with both of you... - mkuller 20:58:07 07/26/17 (4)
> I've personally never been to a fine restaurant that paired wines with their courses that used big ass wines.>

The zinfandel dinner I go to every year at a fine restaurant pairs the food with the wine - last March it was pork with a tomato sauce.

Big wines go great with barbeque or Italian food.
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- RE: I agree with both of you... - jimbill 21:54:08 07/26/17 (3)
  So it was a Zinfandel tasting with food.
  - Some others agree with me and Steve - jimbill 11:57:04 07/27/17 (2)
    Even with barbecue I think fruit bombs are wrong. Beer!
    - http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/big-wine-good-or-evil (Open in New Window)
    - And others... - mkuller 08:24:15 07/28/17 (1)
      > Big wines are about power and pleasure and simple, unabashed hedonism. Made from grapes that are totally ripe, they're wines with big, rich flavors, a generous amount of fruit and relatively high alcohol levels—15 percent and more. They're also precocious; that is, they're ready to drink upon release, although many will benefit from cellaring. A great example of a big, intense wine that has proved to age well is the Pride Mountain Vineyards Cabernet made by the highly regarded Bob Foley.>
      
      Indeed! I've met Bob Foley and really like Pride wines. And I'm a big fan of Turley's wines, as I thought you were. (One of my best friend's wife used to be the banker for Turley, Pride and numerous others.)
      
      But while I prefer big wines I drink any good balanced vino.
      
      Beer? On a hot day a good pale ale or IPA, otherwise not so much.
      - Missed my point - jimbill 08:48:37 07/28/17 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: And others... posted by mkuller on July 28, 2017 at 08:24:15
        
        I belong to Turley, Bedrock, Carlisle, and Siduri (Novy Zins). I do like big wines but I believe they are better alone than with food. I will drink them with a steak and such but I don't think they enhance the food. They tend to dominate the taste buds.
        
        I don't drink that much beer any more. But as a young man I loved to try different ones from around the world.
        
        And certain foods just don't lend themselves to wine.

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