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Couple of wine recs...

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mkuller

...we were out on the town last night and had a couple of very nice wines by the glass.
2012 Paul Hobbs chardonnay - buttery, very good - I suspect about $40 a bottle.
2013 Orin Swift The Prisoner - complex, layered fruit, delicious - also about $40.

Edits: 06/28/15

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RE: Couple of wine recs... - Inmate51 08:08:25 07/02/15 (0)
Thanks for that.

I've grown weary of same-old same-old Cabernet and Chard, and have been "branching out" to South American and Australian made varietals like Zinfandel, Malbec and Syrah. But, last weekend, to go with ribeye steaks, I took a chance on a 2012 Clos du Bois Zinfandel from California for about $10. While not an exceptional value, it was good wine for the money.

:)
Orin Swift no longer makes The Prisoner - jimbill 07:54:07 06/29/15 (0)
Sold the label back in 2009. Now it is The Prisoner Wine Co..
Have you tried... - R Browne 01:02:28 06/29/15 (1)
...any of the Orin Swift Locations wines? Named E, F, I, AR and CA for Spain, France, Italy, Argentina and California they are blends sourced in the respective countries.

Personally I've only tried the E blend which is big and bold with upfront fruit, similar in style to other Orin Swift offerings like The Prisoner. If you like this type of wine it is worth trying and can sometimes be found at Safeway stores for under $16.
- RE: Have you tried... - mkuller 08:04:19 06/29/15 (0)
  ...thanks, I'll look for them.
Picked up a bottle of The Prisoner tonight - jimbill 22:10:22 06/28/15 (15)
Never tried it before. It has definitely become ubiquitous.

It was okay. I found it a bit over ripe/fruity.

Have you tried any of the Bedrock Heritage wines? Also field blends.
- I opened a 2013 Bedrock Heritage... - mkuller 10:41:23 07/11/15 (12)
  ...last night.
  
  I found it a little disappointing.
  
  My standard for zins is the Rafanelli from Dry Creek I've been getting a case of for 25 years now.
  
  The Bedrock is a little lighter and has a sharper finish with only subtle fruit.
  
  Maybe it will improve in a couple of years...
  - Don't have that one.. - jimbill 21:45:33 07/11/15 (9)
    But it got a 91 from WS. They mentioned "dense with fruit". But they also mentioned giving it a few years.
    
    Be aware it is a field blend. Zin, Carignane, and a whole lot of other stuff.
    
    I got on the Rafanelli waiting list. Should have done it a long time ago.
    - RE: Don't have that one.. - mkuller 13:37:04 07/12/15 (8)
      ...what's the main difference between a WS 90pt and an 89pt wine?
      
      I'd guess about 100,000 cases in sales.
      
      Last night we opened a $20 2013 Meoimi Chardonnay WS gave 90pts to for my wife. Their pinot noirs are a great value (Caymus' second label) so I thought I'd give it a try.
      
      She hated it.
      - Matt Kramer of WS just did an article on Meiomi - jimbill 17:45:02 07/12/15 (7)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Don't have that one.. posted by mkuller on July 12, 2015 at 13:37:04
        
        Pretty scathing.
        
        RE: Matt Kramer of WS just did an article on Meiomi - mkuller 19:47:00 07/12/15 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Matt Kramer of WS just did an article on Meiomi posted by jimbill on July 12, 2015 at 17:45:02
        
        ...brand recently sold to Constellation for $315 million.
        
        Sounds like he's jealous and it's too sweet for him.
        
        The 2012 Meoimi won our blind pinot noir tasting if I recall.
        
        Not bad for the price.
        
        I'm jealous too! - jimbill 12:47:47 07/13/15 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Matt Kramer of WS just did an article on Meiomi posted by mkuller on July 12, 2015 at 19:47:00
        
        And I tried a bottle and found it too sweet for me. It was the first Pinot Noir that seemed like a fruit bomb. Seeing how they mixed in Riesling, Gerwurztraminer, and Chardonnay, it makes sense. But if that is what the public buys, then so be it.
        Has your group ever done an Australian Shiraz tasting? You should try some of the Two Hands (Gnarly Dude and Angel's Share, under $30) and Mollydooker (The Boxer and Two Left Feet, under $25) wines. Very ripe and dense wines.
        
        Edits: 07/13/15
        
        RE: I'm jealous too! - mkuller 13:00:54 07/13/15 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm jealous too! posted by jimbill on July 13, 2015 at 12:47:47
        
        ...the wine tasting groups blind tasting tend to favor drinkability and fruit over complexity, balance and cellaring potential.
        
        I'll suggest Australian Shiraz for the next one - thanks for the recommendation.
        
        Yellowtail will probably clean up ;-)
        
        RE: I'm jealous too! - Jerry P 09:49:03 07/14/15 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm jealous too! posted by mkuller on July 13, 2015 at 13:00:54
        
        Try a Black Opal Shiraz. I like it and
        it fits my budget, cheap.
        
        Jerry P
        
        For cheap - jimbill 10:22:58 07/14/15 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm jealous too! posted by Jerry P on July 14, 2015 at 09:49:03
        
        Greg Norman Shiraz Limestone Coast, easily found
        
        These might require a bit of a search:
        
        Nine Stones
        Three Rings
        Wild Oats
        
        Don't be dissing the Aussies! - jimbill 21:06:16 07/13/15 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm jealous too! posted by mkuller on July 13, 2015 at 13:00:54
        
        Actually, when Yellowtail hit the U.S. back in the 80's it was a damn good value.
        
        Throw Yellowtail in against my recommendations. Why not?
        
        I've always loved to throw in a brown bagged cheaper wine to keep it honest.
        
        Of course, you have to throw in a brown bagged trophy wine to keep it really honest.
        
        RE: Don't be dissing the Aussies! - mkuller 09:59:30 07/14/15 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Don't be dissing the Aussies! posted by jimbill on July 13, 2015 at 21:06:16
        
        ...I suspect someone will bring one.
  - Which one? - jimbill 11:00:43 07/11/15 (1)
    nt
    - Sonoma Valley...(nt) - mkuller 11:40:26 07/11/15 (0)
      (nt)
- RE: Picked up a bottle of The Prisoner tonight - mkuller 08:07:40 06/29/15 (1)
  ...to me it was rich, complex and not too fruity.
  
  But I only drink West Coast wines and you are used to the less fruity European offerings.
  
  Haven't gotten into the Bedrocks yet - I'll check one out when we get back after the holiday and let you know.
  - 90% of the wines I drink are West Coast. - jimbill 12:23:18 06/29/15 (0)
    The rest come from Europe and Australia/New Zealand.

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