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In Reply to: RE: Thanks for the reply! posted by jimbill on November 14, 2009 at 18:47:24
"Now, from a science point, why do you think a new wine needs to settle for a few days before drinking? I agree that an older wine will throw sediment so you must let it settle before decanting. If you buy a recently released wine from a store and drive it 15 miles until you get it home should you let it rest for a week? Have you tested this theory? I will forewarn you that I don't believe in expensive speaker cables either...."
Like a lot of things in audio, there is much about wine that I can not explain. Here's a good example: In 2008, I bottled one barrel of 2006 Lewis Vineyard Syrah for my wine club. The wine was removed from barrel to a tank with a pump...but a pretty gentle pump. The wine moved from the tank to the hand bottling device by gravity. It was a good wine, actually it was really good. A few weeks after I bottled it, I tasted it out of bottle and it was not good...the finish was a disaster...terribly abrupt...while I recognized it as the same wine, it was not the same as I tasted before going into bottle and other "winemaker friends" had no trouble telling me so! I really thought I had screwed something up, I looked back at my notes for bottling, but couldn't find anything that looked like a mistake ( it wasn't filtered, so bottling by hand is a pretty simple process). Three months later I open a bottle and it's back to it's wonderful self. In fact, I sent one bottle out for review and the reviewer ranked it as the 11th best wine in the Pacific NW for that year...one behind Quilceda Creek Cab which was a 100 point wine by someone's account. I also used that wine to sign people up for my wine club...there's now a 7 year wait list to get in!
So why does bottle shock exist, what explains it...I have no idea. Why do most winemakers feel they needto ship their wine to an event a week early to let it sit...dunno. Why do my cryo'd long crystal Chimera speaker cables sound so good? Dunno. They just do and I'm fine with that.
BTW, neither the Lewis Syrah nor the Chimeras are that expensive, but when I find something I like....
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Yeah, I'd forgotten that term. I always thought it applied to the disturbance of the wine going from barrel to bottle. But I guess excessive movement of the bottle might have the same effect.
I'll try an experiment next time I have a few people over and I know I'll be serving more than one bottle of the same wine. If I give one bottle a good shaking a few times during the day that should simulate shipping and handling effects. Then do a blind tasting to see if there is a noticable difference.
I'll keep my eye out for the Lewis. Tried your Riesling last night. Very nice. Your description of apricots and peaches was right on. I like that yours had the feel of a good Mosel, but maybe with a bit more muscle. Good balance of sugar and acid.
I don't think that is a valid experiment. Think about how that bottle gets to you. After I deliver it to UPS, it gets put on a truck, taken off of that truck and put onto either a truck or a train...how many times that happens I have no idea....but think of the constant motion. I would think that it's moving more often than it's sitting still. Plus we aren't even discussing temperature swings. It's traveling at night and during the day in different climates. The packaging does give some insulation, but it can do only so much.
After my last post I did a bit of searching and bottle shock is usually related to the muting of flavors after the wine has been bottled.
My initial post was a good review of your wine but noting some "green" flavor. I don't think this would come from bottle shock.
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