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In Reply to: Re: I refuse to switch to digital, I absolutely refuse... posted by Bold Eagle on January 06, 2003 at 10:40:16:
Politics is hotley argued in the Outside Asylum. We could really use you and your openions over there (because I pretty much agree with you and we need more of you there). However, it would really be nice if there were a lot more active photographers posting here. It shouldn't be this slow. I would really like to learn a lot more about photography, the equipment, and the latest developments in digital. As I said below, I did bite about two years ago with a Fuji Fine Pix 4900 Zoom, only to be made obsolete a few weeks later with an improved model. Today, I probably will not be able to get rid of it, at the same time my Hasselblad and Leica will always keep their value, and they make better pictures.
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and besides we don't need anymore pointy headed repubs over there on the Outside.But seriously, as a professional photographer for many years.Vinylly ask me anything here.I promise to be friendly.
We probably can find common ground-we're both artist,own E'stats & tubes,and love politics and photography. OK PEACE......and I won't tell anyone over there,that we're talking to each other here.
Actually, I'm a registered Democrat. I just like to keep the record straight. Too many folks are ideologs and would vote for their own lynching if it was part of the Party platform.Besides, Cameras know no politics.
And as to SUV's, they seem in many cases to be a manifestation of "mine is bigger than your's is", ratrher than a functional vehicle. You know, like the guy who owns an F5 and an 80-200 f/2.8, uses it on Program, and doesn't own any filters (or he owns 50 of them and never uses any). Now there's a good thread! What filters do you guys use. Not own, use!
and good to speak to a Democrat,I'm an Ultra Liberal.Vinylly is such fun on Outside asylum.He thinks Bill Clinton is still pres.with his vile criticisms.First off- I never keep a filter always on my lenes, only when a desired look is determined by me.Will I then use say a polarizer,or 81a warming. With slide film.NO FILTERS with a Digital camera.
One of my all time filters to use is a Tiffen Enhancing.It is used to pop up the colors Reds,Yellows,Oranges in a scene.For a super-real look.
Check this Hot air ballon pic.Shot looking inside while it is being filled with heated air.
Nice shot.I use only a few types of filters, but I have found a lot of variation between brands for supposedly the same filter type. So I have become very fussy about the specifics:
1) Circular polarizing, which also can double as an ND 0.6. Here I use Nikkor or Hoya.
2) Graduated in a neutral grey 0.6 ND from Tiffen. I like their blending at the center. Some others, like Hoya, are too abrupt and it's hard to hide the line. About 33% of the Tiffen is fully ND 0.6, then it tapers nicely to the midpoint.
3) Enhancing, either Tiffen or now Hoya. I have one of each brand in different sizes and they work just the same. Hoya calls theirs by a different name, but it's the same Didymium glass.
4) Nikon L1Bc skylight, which is close to a Hoya HMC Sky 1B, but better made and without the bright edge on the retaining ring that some Hoya's have. But the pinkish color is much better for spring and summer or tropical settings than the old 1A. Nice for travel and shooting at midday when the light is too stark.
5) 81A, but only the old Vivitar VMC, and only if made in the USA. I found these give a nicer color, and they are very well coated, and very well made. You have to buy them used, and they go for a song. But it's a long search to find mint ones. Their Skylight 1A is also slightly pinker than most 1A's.
6) Nikon L37c UV filters stay on my lenses. I have found that some lenses are actually sharper with a filter in place. I know the long lenses with a filter drawer are designed to have a filter in the optical path. It appears that some lenses with front filters have the same characteristic. I have also noted less flare with a coated filter on some lenses. The Nikkor 35-105 manual focus, for one. I use the L37c in the sizes they are available in, since it is virtually colorless. For other sizes I use the B+W 010 UV. Most other UV filters have a yellowish/greenish tint. Terrible for skin tones.
A comment on UV filters: You'll see in a lot of publications that you don't need a UV filter with modern coated lenses. Wrong! The statement is true for wavelengths shorter than 350 nM, but in the range from 350 nM to 400 nM (400 being the beginning of visible light) all regular lenses are 90-100% transmission. This near UV is what you want to filter, and it takes a very sharp cutoff filter to do a good job at 350-400 without having a noticeable tint. Check the transmission curves on the various brands and models of UV filters.
than a scientific approach.I use whatever I have on hand to obtain the Image first (most important communication aspect ever devised)and fix any problem areas within photoshop i.e. glare,contrast,color etc.Which reminds me to mention, that everyone should keep a lens shade handy, or on every lens.For greater sharpness and contrast control.That extra glare robs pictures of colors and impact.
Photoshop or some other processing software can do wonderful things, but I'd prefer to get it as close as possible first. Hence the fussiness about filter specifics. The bright retaining ring on some Hoys filters, for example.A hood almost goes without saying, but we should say it. Not everyone has gotten the message. Unfortunately, my Nikkor 28-105 AF lens takes a hood that's both huge and ineffective. It looks like a cereal bowl! Fortunately, the lens itself is quite flare resistant. The Nikkor manual focus 35-105 was a fine sharp lens (at least mine was, but they did vary a lot), however, it was very flare prone. And guess what? The dedicated hood made things worse. I ended up using the Nikon HN-3 hood from my 35 mm prime lens. After that I started testing my lenses for flare. Use a Mini Maglite and while looking through the finder, wave the beam around the front of the lens. Mounting the camera on a tripod helps, and a dimly lighted room does, too. But it doesn't need to be pitch dark. Try looking for flare at each end and the middle of zoom ranges and largest and smallest apertures. Usually the widest focal length is worst. I've had a lot of surprises doing this. Some pleasant and some unpleasant. A Vivitar Series 1 28-105 f/2.8-3.8 (the older one with the shiny finish) has very low flare and ghosting. The Nikon 35-105 was terrible. Go figure.
It's not so much a techie versus artistic approach. It's really more of a "be prepared" and "leave nothing to chance" sort of thing. I took a note from Ansel Adams books. He was highly technical, measured, calibrated, and tested everything; and his preparation for a shoot was like a military campaign. (read about his preparation for "Moon Over Half Dome", he consulted an astronomer) Yet no one could ever say he was less an artist for it.
I happen to be a retired engineer, so the measuring and technology comes naturally. But when I go out to shoot, I know how my stuff behaves and I can concentrate on the artistic side. This habit started long before Photoshop was around to help me, and it continues today.
others did the printing.I will try your maglite test on my fav Nikon lens 24-120.Very hard for a lens designer to accommodate a lens hood on a very extreme wide to tele zoom,so I'll often use my free hand or fashion a paper flag.
I've been shooting or a professional for 30 years,so I leave nothing to chance I assure you.I've forgotten more than most know.Sorry 'bout that.
Photoshop is not a crutch,but the right tool for modern times,just as autofocusing is here when our eyesight isn't what it once was.All commercial pro work is done with photoshop,books magazines ,movies ,ads,fashion,and even Nature shots.Thats just the way things are done in today's world.
I hope people find something interesting in our post,and that we haven't bored anyone.
Next we can discus off camera flash!!!
I've never sold anything, so I'm definitely not a professional. I belonged to a camera club for a while, but I found it boring. I entered one competition, won first place (with a 5 x 7 print and ISO 400 film, yet)and decided I wasn't going to learn a lot more with that group.I live in a condo so a darkroom is not even possible. So the advent of image processing software and film and slide scanners was really a leg up for me. Darkroom on a desktop. For my needs, I'm in for well under $2000 including a suitable computer. Not a pro setup, but it gets me 8" x 10" prints, suitable for framing. I've found that a well processed 2 megapixel print is "suitable for framing". I have several sitting around in frames, and most people think they are enlargements. Wonderful, I can work in daylight and actually be sociable while working. As opposed to a troglodyte existance in my darkroom.
Ansel may not have been the best at printing, but in the Moon Over Half Dome story, he talked as if he had done the darkroom work. At least I read that into it. I'll have to re-read. He took a shot every two minutes for a couple of hours on glass plates, took them all back to the darkroom, and from them picked two to work with. Two weeks later he had the print. Photoshop would have cut that time dramatically, and a digital camera like the 11 mega pixel Canon or the 14 mP Kodak would have cut a lot of time also. He could have brought a lap top with him, and previewed the shots. In his era it took two trips a month apart.
As to eyesight, that's why I dropped the FE-2 and picked up an N-80. Great lenses and body, but often they weren't as sharply focused as they could be. Besides, I really wanted auto fill flash, flash comp, a built in flash, and a spot meter.
Off camera flash? As in a flash bracket, or on an extension cord, or studio lights, or my two Sunpak 444D's with SU-4 units, or...? I love using the SU-4. No wires and TTL. I can't forget I'm connected and pull things over anymore. Also, the SU-4 will even work with my point and shoots, the ones that control flash power; or any brand of camera, so long as the trigger flash has some sort of power control and sensor.
Bore anyone? With this snappy dialog?
Jerry
OK, I'll be good. I normaly hang out over on the Vintage Forum, but drop into the photo section occasionally. In the uture I'll keep my political views to myself on this Forum. But I could not resist setting the record straight as to under whose administration the recession started. I don't want a repeat of the "Hoover Depression". Herbert wasn't much good at fixing it, but he didn't start it.I am hoping Nikon sees the light and gets the sensor size up to full frame 35 mm like Canon has done on their new model. And then gets the price down under $1000. Then I can share lenses between the FE-2, the N80, and the D???. Now if Nikon (once the leader in flash technology) can get that issue sorted out for the digitals....
We really need you over at the Outside Asylum to keep Joe M in his place. So here it is:
Made from mostly Nikon N80 full frame 13.89 million pixels.Great new shape.Takes all Nikon Lens. I want one, comes out in mid Jan.'03
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