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Leicaand Zeiss rule...

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Posted on May 15, 2004 at 14:57:34
abon


 
A thousand Natinal Geographic photographers can't all be wrong...
:)

 

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Have another drink pal........, posted on May 15, 2004 at 17:06:12
Joe M
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 Try to have a sober discussion. More Photojournalist carry Canon or Nikon film and/or digi.

 

true.., posted on May 16, 2004 at 09:24:48
abon


 
...and more folks buy Bose speakers than any other brand...
Canon and Nikon are good little cameras by all means. No arguement there.
:)

 

Re: true..I'm talkin' pros use not most people, besides, posted on May 16, 2004 at 19:07:02
Joe M


 
most Streophile readers own Maggies.

 

Re: true..I'm talkin' pros use not most people, besides, posted on May 17, 2004 at 20:23:43
gwkatabatic
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 Hmmmm...well, I own two Leicas and three Nikons, and when I REALLY have to be sure I get the image, I'll grab one of my F2's every time. I'll admit, though, that yesterday, in fact, my 24-year old Nikon motor drive failed while I was on a shoot. And I was upset, until I realized that the thing had lasted 24 years.... Yes, Leicas last like crazy too (Zeiss hasn't built any camera that I know of since the Contarex died in the early 70's), but there's a solidity about Nikon equipment that is reassuring, even if their motor drives are wimpy....

My son, of course, can't understand why any manufacturer would build a camera that would last more than four or five years, and for modern digital cameras, I guess that's true...by 2010 a 20-megapixel camera would probably be obsolete.

 

please ignore..., posted on May 19, 2004 at 08:13:56
abon


 
I should have known better than to post this type of subject, ie, my car is better than yours,etc...
At this point in time, I feel that nearly every manufacturer has quality gear to offer, and depending upon one's photographic needs, there is something for everyone. I am also happy to see the Zeiss name become a household name due in large part to a brilliant marketing move with Sony. Up until now, a company that makes such superb optics was known mostly to Hassleblad users and a handfull of others. And I am not saying that other companies do not make superb optics in these modern times.
If optic history interests you at all, do a google search on Carl Zeiss company. There is some amazing and little-known gems to uncover in their 157 year old history. That they invented and own the Patent on Planeterium is one bit of trivia. Aspherical elements is another.
I still love my little Nikon FM, though! And the original Nikkor 105 2.5 is still one of my all-time favorite fashion/portait lens. It's so sharp that Not using soft-focus is not an option!

 

Re: please ignore..., posted on May 21, 2004 at 19:08:10
Bold Eagle
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 They invented those things, but how long ago? One of the problems with patents is that they run out in 15-17 years. Now anybody can, and does, use aspherical lenses. Zeiss operates in a niche market, their name still means something; but in general, the world is passing them by. Kind of sad, really.

Jerry

 

Re: please ignore..., posted on May 21, 2004 at 23:29:58
abon


 
I wouldn't feel to sad about the Zeiss Corp, really. They are in great shape.
Hassleblad and the fashon magazines will never go away, nor the Zeiss lenses used with them.
They make the world's best medical/scientific microscopes that cost a fortune; and they supply Zeiss-designed lenses for affordable Sony cams.
Then of course their is the movie industry. And so on. Niched market perhaps, but a nice niche to be in.
The coating that gives Zeiss optics the edge in color fidelity is still under their patent, I believe.
They tend to spend more money on R+D rather than advertising.
Another bit of trivia is that Zeiss Corp is the only optical company that publishes MTF charts on every lens they produce.
They will probably never have the name recognition of say Canon and the rest, but will always have a strong, albeit quiet, presence concerning optics.
Thanks for your response, Jerry.

 

Re: Leicaand Zeiss rule..., posted on June 29, 2004 at 12:03:19
Brian Levy


 
Without taking away from anything, National Geographic photographers have not used Leica for years. Some years ago, there was some communications between the LSA and a group of NG photographers about the demise of the quality of NG photographically and of the regulars I don't remember any using Leica. They seemed to have gravitated to Nikon and Canon for the most part. I think 1 or 2 were using Contax. The discussion was started b/c there was a noticable shift in terms of the quality of both the subject matter, the artistic components and a loss of the Leica look of the final images. FWIW I am a Leica and Rolleiflex user.

 

Re: Leica and Zeiss rule..., posted on July 3, 2004 at 01:00:23
abon


 
That story speaks volumes, Brian.
Like in the hi-fi biz, I suppose alot of it comes down to who has the most bucks for good PR.

I was watching a fantastic nature documentary on PBS.
The filmaker was using Arri/Zeiss and at the end of the program was an ad from the sponser of the program-Canon. SO this of course leads the viewer to believe that Canon optics and/or cameras were used in the documentary.

 

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