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Compositionally, it's a pretty strong statement. You have a strong movement of the heavy concrete curb and rail from left to right. I think that the bridge structure draws your eye back from right to left and into the distance. The starkness of the different gray tones and blacks help give it the strong industrial force, -which is part of it's statement. Also part of it's appeal is that it's not cluttered with irrelivant objects that could create a distraction and weaken that statement. Not a pretty picture, but a picture showing strenght of concrete and steel, black and white. Makes one feel un-comfortable, -which is what makes it a strong statement.
(This is an example where black and white photos can have a stronger impact then color)

As an aside, too bad you have a G-2. Looks like your going to have to trade if off for the new G-5. Oh well, you can never keep up with these guys. Makes me want to buy the new Lieca D-Lux and just forget all the frenzied up-grading with new models every few months.

In a word - Banal, posted on July 21, 2003 at 05:55:22
Joe M Audiophile Posts: 11980 Joined: September 27, 2001	Technically proficient but still ........ sorry IMO

Re: critique, posted on July 21, 2003 at 07:23:24
Vinylly	Looking at your photo again, I would classify it in two words: "Industrial Isolation" There is no signs of life, human or animal. That is it's strength.

or how to turn a Sow's ear into a Silk purse, posted on July 21, 2003 at 07:57:56

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it could have been shot differently for even greater strength. IMO

It's a good try even still!

I teach , that you should work your subject! That is keep shooting using different angles, perspective, points of interest, croppings. Show us other possibillities.

burn the bugger, posted on July 21, 2003 at 22:02:18

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Dim
There is a shot at that location, but I find the foreground, kerb fence & sign post overly dominant. You could try burning in the sky & kerb darker to try & balance things up a bit. Like wot I did here. Hope you don't mind me messing with your shot. You are on the right track, keep shooting.

regards rod

Banal?! Thank God., posted on July 21, 2003 at 22:27:01
Dmitry Audiophile Posts: 6688 Location: United States Joined: April 12, 2000	Unintentional, more like. Taken from a moving car on FDR Drive in Manhattan. Thank you. I almost felt obligated to buy Vinylly dinner.:)

that's a bunch of...salt., posted on July 21, 2003 at 22:32:33

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Also taken from the [slow] moving car, about 1/2 mile away from the first one.

I liked your treatment!

Re: critique, posted on July 21, 2003 at 22:35:12

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--There is no signs of life, human or animal.

I get the same painful feeling when I drive through that part of town.
Industrial desolation. I love it.:))

Lazy bastard, posted on July 21, 2003 at 22:47:07
R B Audiophile Posts: 3356 Joined: October 13, 1999	To get good shots you have to get out of the bleeding car............watch them foregrounds.................some of that salt will come in handy for Victors wounds...hehe regards rod

Re: Now You've Completely Changed The Message:, posted on July 23, 2003 at 07:18:10

Vinylly

Now there is a rich contrast of black and white, -light and shade. What you see now is the 'lively' patterns of the foreground rail and the rich girder patterns of the bridge. You've made it exciting and 'arty'. This is what you see in photo salons. However you've lost Dmitry's original message, -an uncomfortable quiet dispair of isolation. Both are valid, but for different reasons. I think this is a good example of contrasting two types of photography, 'arty' salon photos vs. photo journalism. They have an impact on the viewer, but at two different levels.

You heard Joe, Dims shot was Banal, posted on July 25, 2003 at 20:45:36
R B Audiophile Posts: 3356 Joined: October 13, 1999	I just turned it into a work of art, a bleeding masterpiece that he will sell & I get nothing. regards rod

Only to glad to help, posted on July 26, 2003 at 06:15:31
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Excellent !, posted on August 6, 2003 at 05:00:10
Sparks1	As a veteran pro amd native New Yorker, I must say that I enjoyed this photo. I have LIVED through the scene that you posted many times,particulary during rush-hour. If thisimage was in some book on famous photo-journalists/images of say, the 60's or 70's, everyone here would be praising it's brilliance. Keep up the good work!!

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