Car Court

• Sports cars - Sumflow 12:33:12 06/21/12 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. posted by beken on October 08, 2004 at 15:28:44

  

  None of those cars are mid-engined. You will realize your mistake at the first corner. Can't you find a nice used Boxster and continue the tradition as a middie driver?
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• Kho tang meo vat Viet Nam - meovat 05:52:13 07/10/06 (0)
  In Reply to: I posted by mr on October:

  Kho tang meo vat viet nam, meo vat, doi song, xa hoi, tam ly, huu ich, nha cua, mua sam, may tinh, tin hoc, vien thong, lam dep, suc khoeKho t?ng m?o v?t vi?t nam, m?o v?t, ??i s?ng, x? h?i, t?m l?, h?u ?ch, nh? c?a, mua s?m, m?y t?nh, tin h?c, l?m ??p, s?c kho?, chua benh, ch?a b?nh, thu?c d?n gian, thuoc dan giann
  

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• Re: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. - MylesJ 20:12:47 12/29/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. posted by beken on October 8, 2004 at 15:28:44:

  The Mazda 3 seems to be the winner. They spec'd about 100,000 units for first year production, then went to 200,000 and now have orders for 300,000. It is a joint Mazda/Ford/Volvo. They saved a lot (25% or so) with the joint development. Mazda took it off the price. Volvo has a Volvo motor but other mechanicals are the same and the car starts for $10,000 US more. The Ford is the European Focus which is a big hit over there. The market has decided this question for you.
  
  

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• Where on earth are you going to find those 3 cars for $17K US? n - mr grits 06:15:24 10/11/04 (4)
  In Reply to: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. posted by beken on October 08, 2004 at 15:28:44:

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  • Re: Where on earth are you going to find those 3 cars for $17K US? n - beken 11:49:15 10/12/04 (3)
    In Reply to: Where on earth are you going to find those 3 cars for $17K US? n posted by mr grits on October 11, 2004 at 06:15:24:

    You probably won't actually be able to BUY any of these at $17K US but that is the base list price for these models. Of course the dealer might add "mandatory" options and freight etc etc.

    In Canada, a version of the MINI Cooper called the Cooper Classic lists for $22K CDN which roughly translates to less than $17K US.

    The Classic package does away with traction control (though ABS is still standard) and the Xenon headlights. It also has a limited number of color choices.

    The base price of the Subaru TS2.5 (which is the RS without leather seating) is $22K CDN.

    The price of a Mazda 3GT is 22K but at dealers with freight and a few options attached, I saw them stickered at $24K CDN.

    
    
    

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    • Well, in that case, go for the Mazda . . . - mr grits 21:09:25 10/12/04 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: Where on earth are you going to find those 3 cars for $17K US? n posted by beken on October 12, 2004 at 11:49:15:

      You will have less pain in the long run. Plenty of dealerships, decent proven reliability, and it should be easy on insurance.

      I just got an xB and am totally thrilled at what a blast it is to drive. Mileage is terrific and it is solid as a rock. Rethink.

      
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      • Re: Well, in that case, go for the Mazda . . . - beken 09:34:46 10/13/04 (1)
        In Reply to: Well, in that case, go for the Mazda . . . posted by mr grits on October 12, 2004 at 21:09:25:

        Hey! I saw a couple of xB's in Vancouver last week with Canadian plates on them. But they are not marketed under the Scion brand. They have Toyota logos on them.

        I drove a Toyota Echo as a courtesy car awhile ago. It was absolutely a no-fun kind of car. But the xB looks kinda funky. I think they would lower Toyota's average customer age a bit.

        
        
        

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        • I live in the Deep South and "oldsters" are buying as many . . . - mr grits 13:33:40 10/13/04 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: Well, in that case, go for the Mazda . . . posted by beken on October 13, 2004 at 09:34:46:

          as college kids and 20-somethings. The car is a super value and parts galore are already available. In Japan it is a Toyota bB. The ride is very firm and sporty (visit it's height vs. width)and driven moderately it will yield over 30 mpg. Test drive one, at least. The shape of the xB garuntees it won't be out of style four years from now as it never was in-style.

          
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• Re: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. - evl bnkr 09:00:25 10/10/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. posted by beken on October 08, 2004 at 15:28:44:

  Hi beken,

  I have a 2002 Protege 5 (hatchback) which is the previous version of the Mazda 3. It's a great car. The feature that sticks out the most in my mind is the handling. You will be able to make turns and corners on a dime. The downside side is the acceleration. 130HP. However, this is something that was beefed up in the Mazda 3 so it might not be an issue. I would diffently give the 3 a test drive.
  
  

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• Re: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. - Rich Brkich 11:44:45 10/09/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Troll for opinions on a range of commuter cars. posted by beken on October 08, 2004 at 15:28:44:

  The three cars you mention are all very nice rides. I luv the mini cooper, but as a commuter car the suspension may be a bit too stiff (though the handling is great) if you face a long commute and I would be concerned about long term maintenence costs if you are going to be keeping the car for 20 years.

  From what I've seen, the new Mazda 3GT looks like a really nice ride. I have a freind who had the prev 5 dorr version of this and it was a nice car.

  I really like the subies... AWD should be much fun in the Canadian winters.

  I can't really say which would be more problematic than the others... the best thing to do check on various forums for each car... often a place were folks will gripe about common problems.

  No car is perfect though... buy what you like!
  Happy Listening,
  Rich Brkich
  Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
  
  

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